Pistol vs Steel

Published on Jul 30, 2017

 

We got our steel targets from MOA targets . Man is shooting steel fun! We got 1 – 1/4 inch AR400 and 1 – 3/8 AR500 targets. I threw one of the targets I cut into the mix as well. All 8 inch. By the way, the AR400 I thought I had is mild steel, you will see as the video series progresses.

In a nut shell all 3 handled pistol up to .45 at 10 to 15 Yards without penetration. The Mild had some dents, AR 400 and AR 500 nada.

Here is the Color Code:

Black = Mild Steel, We cut
Yellow = MOA Targets AR500
Orange = MOA Targets AR400

 

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Federal Firearms License (FFL) Guide – Intro

In the processes of getting my FFL I found lots of good material on line. It got me prepared for my interview with out a doubt. I realized though that the info on line was dated, so I decided to give back and update the info.

“Acknowledgement of Federal Firearms Regulations

Page references are in Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide (ATF P 5300.4 – December 2014)”

Everything I have seen referenced the 2005 version. I will reference the newer 2014 version located HERE

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Federal Firearms License (FFL) Guide – Part 1

1. REQUIRED RECORDS AND REPORTS

Acquisition and Disposition Record 478.125(e) ATF P 5300.4 Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide 2014 Page 65.

(e) Firearms receipt and disposition by dealers. Each licensed dealer shall enter into a record each receipt and disposition of firearms. In addition, before commencing or continuing a firearms business, each licensed dealer shall inventory the firearms possessed for such business and shall record same in the record required by this paragraph. The record required by this paragraph shall be maintained in bound form under the format prescribed below. The purchase or other acquisition of a firearm shall, except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, be recorded not later than the close of the next business day following the date of such purchase or acquisition. The record shall show the date of receipt, the name and address or the name and license number of the person from whom received, the name of the manufacturer and importer (if any), the model, serial number, type, and the caliber or gauge of the firearm. The sale or other disposition of a firearm shall be recorded by the licensed dealer not later than 7 days following the date of such transaction. When such disposition is made to a nonlicensee, the firearms transaction record, Form 4473, obtained by the licensed dealer shall be retained, until the transaction is recorded, separate from the licensee’s Form 4473 file and be readily available for inspection. When such disposition is made to a licensee, the commercial record of the transaction shall be retained, until the transaction is recorded, separate from other commercial documents maintained by the licensed dealer, and be readily available for inspection. The record shall show the date of the sale or other disposition of each firearm, the name and address of the person to whom the firearm is transferred, or the name and license number of the person to whom transferred if such person is a licensee, or the firearms transaction record, Form 4473, serial number if the licensed dealer transferring the firearm serially numbers the Forms 4473 and files them numerically. The format required for the record of receipt and disposition of firearms is as follows: (See Table 4)

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FFL Application Status

11 April 2017 – Sent Application to ATF and Sheriff

13 April 2017 – Delivered to Sheriff

14 April 2017 – Delivered to ATF

18 April 2017 – ATF Cashed Check

09 May 2017 – ATF Called, Interview on the 16th of May

16 May 2017 – Interview went well, should have license in 4-6 weeks

27 May 2017 – License came in the mail!

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Example of Receiving a Firearm for Transfer From A Non-Licensee

  1. Obtain a copy of the sender’s driver’s license (or other government issued photo identification)
  2. Record the make, model, serial number, and date received on the paper containing the copy of the identification
  3. Place that into your IN binder
  4. When placing the entry into your A&D book, put the shipper’s name and address where the FFL number would usually go.
  5. Contact customer
  6. Have customer fill out Form 4473
  7. Conduct background check either through NICS or State Point of Contact
    1. If “proceed” result:
      1. Release firearm to customer
      2. Assign a sequential number to the Form 4473 and place in OUT binder
      3. Mark the firearm out in your A&D book.
    2. If “delayed” result:
      1. Do not release firearm to the customer
      2. Wait for a response from NICS or State Point of Contact
    3. If no response received from NICS in the close of three business days after the check was initiated, you can release the firearm to the customer
    4. If “denied” result
      1. Do not release firearm to the customer
      2. Either purchase firearm from customer, or
      3. Return the firearm to the FFL dealer from whom you received it*

    *If the result is “denied” and the shipper would like the firearm returned, you’ll need to send the firearm to another FFL dealer in the area and not to the individual directly

#3 in Bound Book Example

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Example of Receiving a Firearm for Transfer from Another FFL Dealer

  1. Person contacts you to be receiving FFL dealer for an online gun sale
  2. Send a copy of your FFL to their local FFL dealer
  3. Receive firearm, then record the make, model, and serial number onto the copy of the FFL license that was sent with the firearm.
  4. Mark date received at the top and insert into the IN binder
  5. Record the firearm in your A&D book
  6. Contact customer
  7. Have customer fill out Form 4473
  8. Conduct background check either through NICS or State Point of Contact
    1. If “proceed” result:
      1. Release firearm to customer
      2. Assign a sequential number to the Form 4473 and place in OUT binder
      3. Mark the firearm out in your A&D book.
    2. If “delayed” result:
      1. Do not release firearm to the customer
      2. Wait for a response from NICS or State Point of Contact
    3. If no response received from NICS in the close of three business days after the check was initiated, you can release the firearm to the customer
    4. If “denied” result
      1. Do not release firearm to the customer
      2. Either purchase firearm from customer, or
      3. Return the firearm to the FFL dealer from whom you received it

#5 in Bound Book Example

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Example of Shipping a Firearm You Sold Online as FFL Dealer

  1. Collect payment
  2. Contact buyer for FFL dealer information
  3. Record relevant firearm information (make, model, serial number) onto copy of FFL license of dealer you are shipping the firearm to, and place that in your OUT binder Be sure to place a sequential number in top, right hand corner
  4. Package firearm to be shipped Include a copy of your FFL license
  5. Mark the firearm out in your A&D book
  6. Include the date it was shipped, to whom it was going, and record the same number that was in the top, right hand corner of the page you put in your OUT binder

#4 in Bound Book Example

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Viking Armory 4473 Example

A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a form promulgated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in the United States Department of Justice that is filled out when a person purchases a firearm from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) holder (such as a gun shop).

The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, and a short affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. It contains make, model, or serial number on page three of the six page form. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS. Prosecutions are rare in the absence of another felony committed with the gun purchased.[citation needed] Of 556,496 denied transactions between FY 2008 and FY 2015, federal prosecutors prosecuted an average of under 32 cases per year, including 24 in FY 2013, 15 in FY 2014 and 20 in FY 2015.

REF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4473

This is how we fill out ours: (I will verify when I get inspected)

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